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A great blogger is asking my opinion on the opportunity in India right now for IT professionals. My opinion is, as it was before, that the opportunity in the USA is better still. My reply is so long that I’d rather post it, as opposed to replying to a comment.
Opportunity, sure.
if it is so splendid right now in India, why are you here ? I will venture a guess, and it’s only a guess …
A comparable job in India will still not pay you a salary comparable in USD.
A comparable job in India simply does not exist, because here in the USA, people arrive to work at what … 8 or 9am, and by 5:10pm there is nobody but the night guard to be found in the building.
In India managers work the people to their last nerve. They push them to the edge of insanity from cumulated stress. Push push push. The person, the YOU that sits in front of the monitor gets diminished to your willingness to spend 16 of your 24 waking hours at the office. Not one single opportunity to tell you how insignificant you are, and how countless scores of others are waiting in line for your job is ever passed up.
Not for one moment am I ignoring the sudden rise of what has been happening in India lately. I was a programmer in Silicon Valley right through the IT Bubble of Y2K. Believe it or not, it felt exactly like what India is feeling now. something like this WHHHOOOOEEEEEEE … we are all invinsible …. !!!
But then again, plenty of the good people participating in this IT boom in India right now, actually lived through it here in the Valley too. How ironic. To go through that twice. I wouldn’t want to.
Granted, and I have to make this note: I have not been in India, I have no idea what life there was like before, and I have no idea what life there is like now. but my friend is there as we speak, in Hyderabad. And the amount of People from India who are applying yearly for their H1B visas (some through Multiple employers!!!!) make me believe that the USA still reigns supreme.
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well, thx for making a post for my reply. I’m totally aware of the hectic work schedules that exist in India. And I’m too of the opinion that work atmosphere in US is better than that of India. But again, lets not confuse opportunities with atmosphere. Opportunities are becoming abundant in India with people getting placed frm the third year of the engineering.
And when I say people , I mean people who are worth. There are ofcourse some Engg graduates who doesn’t deserve to be called Engineers and its they who want to work, but do not find it.
Now again coming to US, lemme remind that there is this whole huge desi consultant scam, where people who just graduate with who-knows-what grades are faked as consultants having 6-7 yrs of experience, with fake resumes and sometimes fake phone interviews get placed with some client and work their ass-up to keep up to their Resume. If all these consultants were banned and If one were supposed to find a job, being the person that he actually is, do you still think all those who want to work will still find the work?
Comment by Maverick May 5, 2008 @ 7:04 pmYes, they would still find work. I realise we both are speaking mainly about IT pros, but work in the real sense is not limited to IT.
Work can be anything: Retail, hotel industry, food & wine, entertainment, cleaning services, dogwalking … the list is endless.
btw, dogwalkers here in SF are making such good money that IT seems almost pointless. but not everybody wants to pick up dog**** for a living
and that Desi consultant scam has me bitter to the bone. not because of the success of those liers, no. but because of the people who hire them. To get hired in USA, particularly in IT, you need not have real talent, or experience, you only need to memorise those interview answers and answer it with confidence. you get hired and paid well on teh spot.
anyway, I have hw to do. University never ends
Comment by tandula May 5, 2008 @ 7:38 pmAlso, I guess after being in the workforce for over 12 years, one’s priorities and views change.
Comment by tandula May 5, 2008 @ 7:50 pmTo you right now, Opportunity means having a job.
To me, opportunity collectively means having the job, but also being happy where I work, enjoying the company, and it being a company that respects my rights to a private life.
to me, just having a job, is borderline to simply surviving, and to me, just surviving is not enough.
yeah probably priorities might change over time, to me opportunity means getting a chance to do work which u’ve always wanted to do and well…get paid for it too
And yeah I agree on that part, we’ve been talking only abt IT(whose chances I still belive are great in India.. but lets leave it at tht
). My roomie is a graduate in Transportation Engineering( a spec in civil) and he keeps saying that he wont have many opportunities in India.
Comment by Maverick May 5, 2008 @ 8:34 pmYour roomie is not looking at it right. Civil Engr should be a field that is abound with opportunity right now in India. All the new highways, bridges … The country is going through such a revamp that particularly civil engr should be a wonderful way to make a living there right now. Roomie should just be willing to work somewhere that is not HomeTown that’s all.
Comment by tandula May 6, 2008 @ 7:57 pm